Imagine limiting paint selection because you want a manual

"winterlegacy, here 'till the end" (winterlegacy) 01/23/2020 at 12:36 • Filed to: Manufacturers suck

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Oh wait.

I hate manufacturers that do this. The only reason they’re preventing you from getting a paint color is because someone upstairs said “Yes, we must make this only available on the automatic.”

The only manufacturer I’ve stumbled across that doesn’t do this stupid thing are the FCA satellite companies, and even then, they axed the manual on the Renegade, so if you wanted to get a colorful  toaster with a manual, it is out of the picture.

Long_Voyager94 > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 12:45

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This bugs me.

So does “Oh you want the blackout package?”, “ok, you also need to add the plus package for $5k, the tech package for $2k, and you can no longer select the body color you wanted”

Well kindly go F-yourself then, I’m not spending an extra $7k in shit I don’t want and losing my color just to get the black front end and wheels.

Tripper > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 12:46

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People that want manuals also want rad colors

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 12:46

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Thankfully when I was shopping my two leading candidates Subaru and Toyota both let you have whatever color you wanted with the manual transmission. Usual issue of available dealership selection still applies (it took 3 months for me to find a Corolla in the blue, with manual, and that a dealer hadn’t stuck the bumper protector on).

dogisbadob > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 12:50

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That fucking PISSES ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kia Soul Green is THE definitive color of the Kia Soul! How can they NOT offer manual with the official color of the car? Yellow and orange are nice,too, and they should also be offered with manual.

No more panoramic sunroof, either :(

HammerheadFistpunch > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 12:51

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well they only crash test certain colors you see...

wafflesnfalafel > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 12:52

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yeah - I can see not making spec models but at least offer the option to order one with the colors/options we want...

Chariotoflove > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 12:53

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I would like technology to get to the point where it is a trivial thing to order your car in any color you like with no extra charge or restriction. It shouldn’t be available on only super expensive cars.

jimz > Tripper 01/23/2020 at 12:56

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not on a Renegade. people who would get a manual in a “cheap” car are cheapskates, so they probably do  this because they don’t want to bother with extra-cost paint colors which won’t sell.  

MonkeePuzzle > HammerheadFistpunch 01/23/2020 at 12:56

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infrared cars are never tested, because we cant see them?

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > dogisbadob 01/23/2020 at 12:57

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They don’t even offer Alien 2 anymore. That was their most popular color.

I bet they’ll put it on the Soul EV though.

Long_Voyager94 > Chariotoflove 01/23/2020 at 12:57

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Pretty sure that doesn’t require technology, they could do it in the 60s and 70s without issue.......

Long_Voyager94 > Long_Voyager94 01/23/2020 at 12:58

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I know it’s a “cost” thing, but I really think they need to offer the option to build your own vehicle exactly to your specs.

I would gladly pay more money to get exactly what I want than pay more for a bunch of shit I don’t.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/23/2020 at 12:58

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Toyota is one of the few other companies that doesn’t do that.

I was legitimately considering recommending my mother buy a HR-V after her Escape-but-not , but they dropped the manual from the HR-V... and even then they kept the vibrant colors away from the manual. They were all dark colors.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Long_Voyager94 01/23/2020 at 12:59

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“Oh, so you want it in bright blue? Too bad. Please add our complimentary 22 inch rim package with quarter inch rubber, 4 inch lift kit, and ultra-massage seating. What, you don’t want any of those? Get lost.”

Chariotoflove > Long_Voyager94 01/23/2020 at 13:00

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Well yeah, but I’m making the implicit assumption that there is some cost-related reason why it isn’t offered, like the extra prep time, mixing small batches of paint, whatever.  I’m thinking we should have reached the stage by now, though, where thoughtful application of current technology should be able to mitigate those costs and allow the flexibility on a larger scale.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Chariotoflove 01/23/2020 at 13:01

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Muh forced scarcity...

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > wafflesnfalafel 01/23/2020 at 13:01

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Literally the only difference between the ultra-base trim and the trim with the automatic is the transmission. That’s it.

dogisbadob > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:04

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tripper > jimz 01/23/2020 at 13:13

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I’d pay up (within reason) for a color but to your point, not on an econobox 

PartyPooper2012 > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:14

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Hmmm... Reading comments below (or above whichever kinja does today) - it seems color is very important to you all.

To me - as long as the doors don’t fall off on first bump and oil doesn’t squirt from every possible hole in the engine, then it’s an OK car.

I can care less what color it is as long as the car is manual.

I currently have a C5 vette in manual. Everything around it is leaking - weather stripping on T top are all sorts of fucked... even after replacing them. Need to replace another window regulator so I can ajust the tilt of the windows

But anyway... yeah. Manual and no leaks. 

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:17

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I didn’t even realize you could ever get the HR-V with a manual.

interstate366, now In The Industry > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/23/2020 at 13:19

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Yeah, it was 2WD only and I think you could only get it on lower trims.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > PartyPooper2012 01/23/2020 at 13:20

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Color is probably one of the first places to start when looking for a car. Some people are happy with black and white. I personally want to avoid black, white, and gray (with certain exceptions for certain shades of gray which end up being more of a gunmetal color.)

412GTI > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:21

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It is silly but the only reason I see why is manuals being low volume and most consumers don’t choose fun colors regardless of transmission . We just got in this Laser Blue 6MT Compass, and it looks great minus the poverty wheels.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/23/2020 at 13:21

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You could for a few years, it basically turned the HR-V into a big fat Fit.

It’s gone now.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > 412GTI 01/23/2020 at 13:22

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I forget you can get the Compass, of all things, with a manual.

There may still yet be hope!

i86hotdogs > 412GTI 01/23/2020 at 13:28

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I enjoy those black steelies. With a decent set of tires, they look rugged

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:30

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This is a weird thing with Kia’s trim level system.

Kia views that as a trim level, not a transmission option. Despite them both being LX trim, it’s viewed internally as LX Manual and LX Automatic. To us, we would ll say yeah that’s an LX and it’s optional to get either trans. To them - different vehicle entirely.

So then it becomes a production allocation situation to them (that was a lot of ‘tions in a row). Typically the manual option is a low production volume for Kia so if you aren’t going to see a lot of production you’re not going to see a lot of color choices.

F or the record, I agree it’s lame. Especially when “colorful” is kind of Soul’s thing.

i86hotdogs > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:31

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When the Renegade still offered the manual, I got it in Anvil.

Textured Soy Protein > PartyPooper2012 01/23/2020 at 13:52

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BAN BORING COLORS

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:52

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Probably the best at letting you get what you want is Ford with the F150. You can pretty much custom build a truck from them, at least last time I checked.

I agree, let me have the choice. I think that should be with everything though, not just paint color s. Like I want to be able to buy an Accord with the 2.0, 10 speed automatic, and cloth seats.  I don’t care for leather or a sunroof and have no desire to have one.  

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Textured Soy Protein 01/23/2020 at 13:54

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I feel like I need that on a sticker on my rear window.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 13:57

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I wonder how few they sold. Certainly isn’t the type of car most people looking for a manual would be looking at.

Textured Soy Protein > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 14:00

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I’d just like to point out that in spite of that pop-up, yellow is the only color that you can have on an automatic, but not manual, Soul LX. If you go back to the main color chooser screen there are more colors available with the manual than just those few. 

412GTI > i86hotdogs 01/23/2020 at 14:02

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I think you’re right, they would look a lot more proper with some good rubber. 

3point8isgreat > PartyPooper2012 01/23/2020 at 14:04

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When I’ve looked at used cars I’ll mostly ignore color, but of course have favorites.  But generally condition/price matters more. When buying something new though?  They’ll all be roughly the same price, and all should be in perfect condition.  So heck yes I’m going to be picky on color.  Especially when paying new car prices.  The $30k+ average new car price is way too much to pay and just get beige.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > i86hotdogs 01/23/2020 at 14:20

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With the grime and the lighting , it almost looks a bit like big m etal flecks. That’s actually really cool.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/23/2020 at 14:21

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As usual, not many. The crossover market is essentially automatic only, as that’s where the “normie” market is.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 01/23/2020 at 14:22

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FCA does something similar with the RAM, at least with paint colors.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Textured Soy Protein 01/23/2020 at 14:27

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Incorrect. You may only select black, gray, or white if you want the manual.

Inferno Red? Nope. Mars Orange? Nope.

Jim Spanfeller > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 14:29

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Well man, that’s just crappy. I miss the days when you could pick whatever specific options you wanted instead of having to choose a predetermined options package...

Textured Soy Protein > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 14:36

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You’re right, that damn configurator is a mess switching things up with different color choices.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Jim Spanfeller 01/23/2020 at 14:45

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Manufacturers get it wrong. Option packages should be considered modules alongside trim levels. If a trim level includes something standard, then the option package should be selected. Paint should never be considered a dependency for a trim level*. T he base trims of cars need to be vibrant because more people are seeking to get vibrantly colored cars, especially in a “ shrinking” compact market.  

* The only time a color should ever be exclusive is if it’s some outlandish or spe cialty color, such as the Soul’s red-roofed model being exclusive to the GT.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > Textured Soy Protein 01/23/2020 at 14:46

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It’s a mess. It lets you select the options, but if you “upgrade” half the time it’ll silently make a change without you noticing.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 15:07

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Not to mention not having and manual option, Yellow or green on the turbo.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 01/23/2020 at 15:08

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Ram has like 46 colors to choose from. 

i86hotdogs > 412GTI 01/23/2020 at 15:27

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Sorry for the small image. But here’s an example

i86hotdogs > 412GTI 01/23/2020 at 15:29

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i86hotdogs > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 15:31

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If all FCA vehicles had this color, Anvil would be my #1 choice on a Scat Pack

412GTI > i86hotdogs 01/23/2020 at 15:53

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Oh wow that is much better. Least it looks like an honest little truckster and not an econobox then

Long_Voyager94 > Chariotoflove 01/23/2020 at 15:57

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Honestly I think the only reason is to get buyers to buy the more expensive package.

Chariotoflove > Long_Voyager94 01/23/2020 at 16:02

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Yeah, probably.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > i86hotdogs 01/23/2020 at 16:44

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There was a gray a while back, I don’t remember which, but it was a warm gray with some brown undertones that was positively delightful.

There’s also a gray that Ford made, I want to say it’s the one they called Magnetic, that is super nice in direct sunlight.

i86hotdogs > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 17:01

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I think I know what Ford color you’re talking about. And if it is, I agree with you.

Under_Score > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 17:13

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This is how companies want it to go . Back when my RAV4 was new, all my mom wanted was a sunroof. Color availability meant she got a Limited (despite lower trims having sunroofs).

Guess who needed heated seats and keyless access in her next car? (Granted, those are usually bundled with sunroofs, but still).

Future Heap Owner > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 18:22

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Ugh. Getting exactly the color I want is like the only reason I could see myself buying a brand-new car.

feather-throttle-not-hair > i86hotdogs 01/23/2020 at 19:19

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This is good color.

feather-throttle-not-hair > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 01/23/2020 at 19:23

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There was a grey i really liked that was offered on the 2-series, but they stopped offering it by the time I bought mine. :(

PartyPooper2012 > Textured Soy Protein 01/24/2020 at 06:56

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What’s not a boring color tho? Let’s say then all cars are painted that color from now on... then that color becomes boring.... 

Textured Soy Protein > PartyPooper2012 01/24/2020 at 08:57

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Silver is a never for me . Pla in flat white only on certain specific cars. Pearl white can be ok . I like how other people’s black cars look but I don’t like keeping it clean, I’ve had one black car and never again. Gray I’m either-or.

But I like actual colors like blue, blue, orange, green, yellow, purple, etc. Anything like that is 100x better than silver, white, black or gray. 

PartyPooper2012 > Textured Soy Protein 01/24/2020 at 09:09

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OK. I think you really like blue tho ;-)

I could care less about what color car is. I’ve had all sorts of color cars in my day. Get me from A to B without killing me and im cool with it. Bonus for extra ponies and extra pedals

Textured Soy Protein > PartyPooper2012 01/24/2020 at 09:12

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I do, because blue is objectively the best color.

B_dol > Textured Soy Protein 01/24/2020 at 09:45

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I concur - blue BMWs pop

I submit the only (and worst) photo of the two of mine together.